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Without having the mouse in hand, is there any way if I can determine if a USB mouse (ie: http://dx.com/p/usb-2-0-wired-red-laser-3200-2400-1600-800dpi-gaming-mouse-black-225631#tabProInfo) supports conversion to a PS/2 interface?

As in, will it work with one of those adapters that convert USB to PS/2?

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  • This is just a thought (hence, don't rely on this), but if the mouse requires specific drivers, it won't be as likely to work with the adapter. If your OS can work with your mouse out of the box, there are good chances that it might work. – Doktoro Reichard Jan 21 '14 at 17:08
  • @DoktoroReichard unfortunately I don't have one yet – Gerharddc Jan 21 '14 at 17:20

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Unless it comes with PS/2 support clearly noted, its best to assume it doesn't. As noted on this Wikipedia page, those adapters are nonstandard, so even if the mouse supports PS/2 you might be looking at the wrong adapter. Also, anytime you adapt back to PS/2 you're going to lose features of the mouse (the high DPI settings in this case).

If you really need PS/2, an active adapter should be able to handle any USB mouse - but at their cost, you're better off using a USB mouse (even if that means adding USB to your PC).

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  • Will I lose the high DPI settings or will the PS2 protocol not be able to resolve the higher detail? – Gerharddc Jan 22 '14 at 03:28
  • I'm honestly not certain. I've always ran on that assumption, but I've never really tested it myself... I have little need for a high-DPI mouse myself. – BowlesCR Jan 24 '14 at 16:09
  • USB-IF is a money making standard badly disliking open hardware community. – Brian Cannard Oct 16 '20 at 07:09
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Active USB to PS2 convertors should just work. We used a few of these in servers where old servers still needed PS2 input and we only had a KVM with a 'USB mouse' output.

On the other had, you did not link to such a device. The device below is a passive plug which does not convert any signals. It assume that the mouse can do both USB and PS2 protocols, and that the mouse will detect which one it needs.

This means that you can not use this on a mouse which only understands USB.

Then there is a minor matter of the purple device you linked to. Colours from that era usually use orange or purple for keyboards, and green for mice. I am not sure that a keyboard plug is wired the same way as the green mouse plug. (The website you linked to call the one a replacement USB keyboard to PS/2).

Replacement USB Keyboard to PS/2

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  • Sorry, but someone else edited that link in, I have now fixed it to be a green mouse adapter. – Gerharddc Jan 22 '14 at 03:28
  • Furthermore, here is a pinout of one and the other, notice they are the same. http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/replace-usb-with-ps-2-t2209.html shows http://image.pinout.net/pinout_dell_inspiron_files/MS_optical_mouse_USB_PS2_adapter_pinout.jpg and http://readious.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/ps2-to-usb-wiring-diagram.html shows (talking about keyboard) http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/13/05/77/43/usb-to11.jpg – barlop Jan 26 '14 at 11:20
  • also the newer link he linked to http://www.magnifyingaids.com/store/ps2-to-usb-adapter-p-1213.html shows ones that happen to be green and says "Allows you to plug your **USB keyboard or mouse** into a PS/2 port." So @Gerhman the newer pic/description you linked to proves that the previous pic was fine! – barlop Jan 26 '14 at 11:24
  • I have had some that are red. BTW according to this link pinouts.ru/InputCables/usb_ps2_mouse_pinout.shtml USB to PS/2 mouse or keyboard adapter pinout <-- that title also says it's the same. – barlop Jan 26 '14 at 11:32
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I have used loads of USB mice and keyboards and those little adaptors always work with them.

(apart from situations where the little adaptor was picky and the computer's usb port was picky. I had a bunch of little adaptors, different makes. The good ones worked always. No special circuitry. The USB mouse/keyboard always supported PS2.

The issue is the other way, Ps2 to USB, then you need a big adaptor with special circuitry.

By the way, when I tried USB-Ps2 adaptors, some slightly larger green ones that looked like the ones you pictured, were a bit picky, but some slightly smaller ones that happened to be red and purple seemed more reliable in that they seemed to work in all my computers including a picky one(they were from a convenient rip off elecronics store called maplin).

I had also heard that all USB mice/keyboard seem to support Ps2. My experience of them is that.. I have tried many USB mice/keyboard , cheap ones, and without me having to check, and they've all supported them. Though I suppose it's possible maybe there are some that don't and you could get unlucky, but I doubt it!

The mouse is cheap and finding out if it works is like less than a minute once you get the items i'd just buy it and try it.

I don't know about losing dpi. I just use mouse/keyboard like a normal joe and don't know about dpi in regard to mice.

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Ruslan (in 2019) comments "I've also used lots of USB mice, and until now I hadn't come across one without support for PS/2 via an adaptor. But now here it is: I replaced Logitech M-BJ58 with M100, and... it doesn't work in PS/2 port, although it works fine when plugged in directly into a USB port, and M-BJ58 does work in both. Dunno how Logitech could throw away such a trivial piece of functionality, but it's so. ..[and am] not alone with this combination of the replaced and replacement mice, see https://community.logitech.com/s/question/0D53100005101CqCAI/how-to-get-m100-mouse-on-ps2-port
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It might be that as we move forward (in time), some other new USB mice might not support ps2! (as ps2 is more and more phased out)

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  • That's good, news I should possibly get one and give it a try then then, but do you have any way of knowing how this setup will affect the ppi because 2400 or 3200dpi for my application? – Gerharddc Jan 22 '14 at 03:48
  • @Gerhman I just made an edit - that I don't know that bit. – barlop Jan 22 '14 at 03:50
  • thanks anyway, I will probably buy it, but the DPI is important for me because this is actually for something non-computer related but you guys are probably my best bet at getting the info. I just need a cheap mouse capable of over 2400dpi that can interface with the PS2 protocol for an electronics project, but those guys don't really have too much experience with mice... – Gerharddc Jan 22 '14 at 04:08
  • @Gerhman I suppose there are many forums that specialize in particular games, so you could try one of those. I didn't know about mouse and dpi until I googled it and then games came up so I think if you target your question to the gaming community by going where they go, you increase your chances of getting a good answer. – barlop Jan 22 '14 at 10:26
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    I've also used lots of USB mice, and until now I hadn't come across one without support for PS/2 via an adaptor. But now here it is: I replaced Logitech M-BJ58 with M100, and... it doesn't work in PS/2 port, although it works fine when plugged in directly into a USB port, and M-BJ58 does work in both. Dunno how Logitech could throw away such a trivial piece of functionality, but it's so. BTW, I'm not alone with this combination of the replaced and replacement mice, see [Logitech's forum](https://community.logitech.com/s/question/0D53100005101CqCAI/how-to-get-m100-mouse-on-ps2-port). – Ruslan Jun 26 '19 at 10:09
  • I guess those mice which don't support PS/2 must be boycotted by open hardware fans. – Brian Cannard Oct 16 '20 at 07:08